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- Info-Hams Digest Wed, 24 Nov 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1380
-
- Today's Topics:
- Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 17 November
- DAYTON 94 - info please ?
- grounding the MFJ-16010 Rndom Wire Tuner?
- info on Alinco DJ-162
- Mag Mount Paint Damage
- MISS MANNERS IN THE N
- modifiable radios
- re:CONELRAD-what was it?
- Source for FCC 610 form?
- Time to get ticket
- WARNING: Potential Satellite Anomaly Warning
- WEFAX and the KPC-3
-
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- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 23:07:55 MST
- From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!destroyer!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!adec23!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 17 November
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
-
- DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY
-
- 17 NOVEMBER, 1993
-
- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
-
- (Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data)
-
-
- SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY INDICES FOR 17 NOVEMBER, 1993
- ------------------------------------------------------------
-
- !!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 321, 11/17/93
- 10.7 FLUX=100.0 90-AVG=093 SSN=057 BKI=3100 0032 BAI=005
- BGND-XRAY=B1.2 FLU1=1.4E+05 FLU10=1.2E+04 PKI=2111 2133 PAI=006
- BOU-DEV=033,005,000,003,003,002,023,015 DEV-AVG=011 NT SWF=00:000
- XRAY-MAX= B3.8 @ 1840UT XRAY-MIN= B1.0 @ 0103UT XRAY-AVG= B1.4
- NEUTN-MAX= +003% @ 2030UT NEUTN-MIN= -001% @ 1130UT NEUTN-AVG= +0.4%
- PCA-MAX= +0.0DB @ 2355UT PCA-MIN= -0.6DB @ 1345UT PCA-AVG= -0.0DB
- BOUTF-MAX=55362NT @ 2356UT BOUTF-MIN=55337NT @ 2031UT BOUTF-AVG=55355NT
- GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT G7-AVG=+065,+000,+000
- GOES6-MAX=P:+113NT@ 1849UT GOES6-MIN=N:-062NT@ 1041UT G6-AVG=+086,+018,-034
- FLUXFCST=STD:100,100,100;SESC:100,100,100 BAI/PAI-FCST=020,015,010/020,015,010
- KFCST=3334 4333 2225 5221 27DAY-AP=007,011 27DAY-KP=1223 3220 4332 2332
- WARNINGS=*SWF
- ALERTS=
- !!END-DATA!!
-
- NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 16 NOV 93 was 44.0.
- The Full Kp Indices for 16 NOV 93 are: 3- 2o 3- 3- 2o 2o 1o 2-
-
-
- SYNOPSIS OF ACTIVITY
- --------------------
-
- Solar activity was very low. Region 7618 (N09E07) has
- shown some white light growth since yesterday, but overall this
- region has remained relatively stable. The remainder of the
- disk is spotless.
-
- Solar activity forecast: solar activity is expected to be
- low to moderate. Region 7618 is expected to produce C-class
- and isolated M-class activity.
-
- The geomagnetic field has been at mostly quiet levels for the
- past 24 hours.
-
- Geophysical activity forecast: for day one, the
- geomagnetic field is expected to be at mostly active levels in
- response to a favorably located coronal hole. The field on
- days two and three is expected to be at mostly unsettled
- levels.
-
- Event probabilities 18 nov-20 nov
-
- Class M 50/50/50
- Class X 05/05/05
- Proton 05/05/05
- PCAF Green
-
- Geomagnetic activity probabilities 18 nov-20 nov
-
- A. Middle Latitudes
- Active 30/30/10
- Minor Storm 25/25/05
- Major-Severe Storm 10/10/01
-
- B. High Latitudes
- Active 45/35/20
- Minor Storm 20/15/05
- Major-Severe Storm 10/10/01
-
- HF propagation conditions were normal over all regions.
- Minor deterioration of signal qualities for transpolar and
- transauroral circuits is expected over the next 24 to 48 hours
- with greatest instabilities expected during the local night and
- sunrise sectors. Middle and low latitude paths should remain
- near-normal with possibly only slightly increased levels of
- night-sector fading and multipathing over the higher latitude
- paths. Conditions should return to near-normal over all
- regions by 20 November.
-
-
- COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS
- ========================================================
-
- REGIONS WITH SUNSPOTS. LOCATIONS VALID AT 17/2400Z NOVEMBER
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- NMBR LOCATION LO AREA Z LL NN MAG TYPE
- 7618 N09E07 338 0650 DKI 10 047 BETA
- 7616 N11W59 046 PLAGE
- 7619 N10W58 045 PLAGE
- REGIONS DUE TO RETURN 18 NOVEMBER TO 20 NOVEMBER
- NMBR LAT LO
- NONE
-
-
- LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 17 NOVEMBER, 1993
- -------------------------------------------------------
- BEGIN MAX END RGN LOC XRAY OP 245MHZ 10CM SWEEP SWF
- NO EVENTS OBSERVED
-
-
- POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 17 NOVEMBER, 1993
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- BEGIN MAX END LOCATION TYPE SIZE DUR II IV
- NO EVENTS OBSERVED
-
-
- INFERRED CORONAL HOLES. LOCATIONS VALID AT 17/2400Z
- ---------------------------------------------------
- ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXTENSIONS
- EAST SOUTH WEST NORTH CAR TYPE POL AREA OBSN
- NO DATA AVAILABLE FOR ANALYSIS
-
-
- SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
- ------------------------------------------------
-
- Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn 2695 MHz 8800 MHz 15.4 GHz
- ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------- --------- ---------
- 16 Nov: 0002 0019 0039 B3.2
- 0456 0458 0501 B3.0
- 0907 0912 0915 C1.0 SF 7618 N10E30
- 0929 0933 0937 B4.2
- 1039 1042 1044 B2.6
- 2322 2326 2335 B2.6
- 2349 2353 2356 B1.7
-
-
- REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
- ------------------------------------------------
-
- C M X S 1 2 3 4 Total (%)
- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --- ------
- Region 7618: 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 001 (14.3)
- Uncorrellated: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 006 (85.7)
-
- Total Events: 007 optical and x-ray.
-
-
- EVENTS WITH SWEEPS AND/OR OPTICAL PHENOMENA FOR THE LAST UTC DAY
- ----------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn Sweeps/Optical Observations
- ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ ---------------------------
- NO EVENTS OBSERVED.
-
- NOTES:
- All times are in Universal Time (UT). Characters preceding begin, max,
- and end times are defined as: B = Before, U = Uncertain, A = After.
- All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce
- associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the
- x-rays. Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the
- optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times.
-
- Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include:
-
- II = Type II Sweep Frequency Event
- III = Type III Sweep
- IV = Type IV Sweep
- V = Type V Sweep
- Continuum = Continuum Radio Event
- Loop = Loop Prominence System,
- Spray = Limb Spray,
- Surge = Bright Limb Surge,
- EPL = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb.
-
-
- ** End of Daily Report **
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 09:45:52 GMT
- From: munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!Q.icl.co.uk!dsbc!iclbra!prs@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: DAYTON 94 - info please ?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hello
-
- I'm going to be in the states in April or May next year. Can anyone tell
- me when the Dayton event takes place. Anyone have any details of the event ?
-
- E-mail direct any replies.
-
- tnx
-
- 73
-
- Peter
- G0PUB
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- --... ...-- -.. . --. ----- .--. ..- -... -.- (Pub Inspector)
- Peter Swynford is available... TEL: +44 344 472625 FAX: +44 344 473300
- or at prs@oasis.icl.co.uk ICL: 7263-2625 AX25: G0PUB@GB7BEQ.GBR.EU
- Disclaimer: See Paragraph 2.4.a of section 1.a (article 7) (iii) of the
- Town and Country Planning Act, 1967.
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 03:07:30 GMT
- From: news.uiowa.edu!icaen!drenze@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: grounding the MFJ-16010 Rndom Wire Tuner?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- What's the best way to ground the MFJ-16010 Random Wire Tuner (ie, where
- on the tuner). THis is my situation: When I'm tuning up to the dummy
- load, my SWR meter registers decent SWR. But when I tune up to my random
- wire, it registers straight 1:1 SWR--no matter wht settings I use on the
- tuner.
- Any thoughts? Is this caused by lack of a decent ground, and if so,
- will grounding help, or no?
-
- Tnx es 73 de doug, n0yvw
-
- --
- __ /| | Douglas J Renze, N0YVW | I just finished reading Joe Haldeman's "All
- \'o.O' | +1 319 337 4664 | My Sins Remembered." I've felt a lot of
- =(___)= | drenze@icaen.uiowa.edu | emotions from books, but this is the first
- U | Douglas-Renze@uiowa.edu | time I've felt the need to purge myself.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 23 Nov 93 21:46:45 GMT
- From: ogicse!uwm.edu!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!pachner@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: info on Alinco DJ-162
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I just purchased an Alinco DJ-162TD. I was wondering if there are any mods
- available for the out of band recieve. Also, this unit might be used as a
- Civil air Patrol radio for my dad, so are there any out of band transmit
- mods. Thanks for any info.
-
- --
- Thomas Jay Pachner -=- Music Major, Bassist, Gamer, and Amateur Operator
- University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee - pachner@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
- BARNEY MUST DIE!!!!!!!!!
- Amateur Call Sign: N9UUJ
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 13:01:59 GMT
- From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ennews!mcdphx!schbbs!mothost!lmpsbbs!news@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Mag Mount Paint Damage
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article 7530@nic.csu.net, David Van Nuys <vannuysd@sonoma.edu> writes:
- }I notice that my two-meter mag mount is leaving rings on the paint of my
- }trunk. Has anyone got any tips for preserving the paint and still using
- }a mag mount?
- }
- }Please send e-mail. Thanks.
- }
- }David
- }AB6XR
-
- I use the corner from a large "Zip Lock" bag under mine. Be careful not just
- to use any plastic bag, some will damage the paint when exposed to sunlight.
-
- 73,
- Bruce, WB4YUC, el YUCCO. . .
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 23 Nov 93 10:07:36
- From: netcomsv!netcomsv!lavc!steven.rosenberg@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: MISS MANNERS IN THE N
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- > Abosolutely, I agree that we should drop by the N/T segments often and
- > offer a friendly hand.
-
- Experienced hams: PLEASE heed this advice and come to the Novice CW bands!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 18:40:53 GMT
- From: ukma!rsg1.er.usgs.gov!dgg.cr.usgs.gov!bodoh@seismo.css.gov
- Subject: modifiable radios
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <754069539.AA01628@rochgte.fidonet.org>, David.Stark@p2.f333.n2613.z1.fidonet.org (David Stark) writes:
- |>...
- |> Why, you ask, is the '24AT et al an endangered species? Because they violate
- |> the new TDDRA and can be "easily modified" to receive cellular telephone
- |> calls. Folks, we are already riding down the "slippery slope" to the end of
- |> hobby radio as we know it.
- |>
-
- I would not expect any of the manufacturers of amateur equipment to drop
- any radios because of the TDDRA - unless they are due to be dropped
- anyway. Most manufacturers of amateur (and scanner) equipment will most
- likely revise the firmware/CPU so that it does not allow for modifications
- to receive cellular. Radio SHack has already announced (or hinted) that the
- PRO-2006 will be replaced with the PRO-2007 and the PRO-43 will be replaced
- by the PRO-43A. In both cases, the major change will be the firmware/CPU...
-
- The TTDRA does not address the ability of dual conversion radios to easily
- monitor cellular images. I have heard rumblings that Radio Shack MAY drop
- all dual conversion 800 Mhz scanners in anticipation that the FCC will
- ammend the TDDRA to specifically address dual conversion images.
- --
- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
- + Tom Bodoh - Sr. systems software engineer, Hughes STX, N0YGT +
- + USGS/EROS Data Center, Sioux Falls, SD, USA 57198 (605) 594-6830 +
- + Internet; bodoh@dgg.cr.usgs.gov (152.61.192.66) +
- + "Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends!" EL&P +
- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 23 Nov 93 23:22:39 GMT
- From: ogicse!cs.uoregon.edu!sgiblab!spool.mu.edu!news.nd.edu!mac33@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: re:CONELRAD-what was it?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CGvotM.8un@freenet.carleton.ca>, ab510@Freenet.carleton.ca
- (George W. Attallah) wrote:
- >
- >
- > I have an early 50s bc reciever with triangular symbols at 640 and 1240 khz.
- > I have been told that these were for CONELRAD. Are there any old timers
- > out there who can fill me in on this? TNX.
- >
- > --
- > GEORGE ATTALLAH-"THE LAST SURVIVOR OF THE GROUP OF ONE"
-
- I think it was an ancient precursor of the Emergency Broadcast System (or
- whatever the Canadian equivalent might be). Are you sure your Jurassic
- radio is marked in kilohertz? In those days I think they were still talking
- about "kilocycles."
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 23 Nov 93 05:16:56 GMT
- From: ogicse!cs.uoregon.edu!sgiblab!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!spinnaker.jpl.nasa.gov!user@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Source for FCC 610 form?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In response to my original posting, the most popular methods for obtaining
- a 610 form are:
-
- 1) Ask your local Volunteer Examiner group
-
- 2) Send a SASE to the ARRL at:
- ARRL
- Special Requests - FCC Form 610
- 225 Main St
- Newington CT 06111
-
- Bart Jahnke <bjahnke@arrl.org> mentions that:
- > Generally, few if any FCC offices now have the 610 form. Even if they did,
- > the FCC's policy has been to handle all forms distribution through a
- > contractor they use who is located in Maryland.
-
- and Luck Hurder <lhurder@arrl.org> says:
- > FCC requires/demands that 610 forms be on a SPECIFIC colored,
- > SPECIFIC weight paper. It's not something that can be just
- > placed on disk and let loose.
-
- So it seems that keeping a PostScript version on line somewhere is out of
- the question.
-
- Thanks and 73 to all who responded,
-
- --
- Leif J. Harcke, N3EEN
- Leif_J_Harcke@jpl.nasa.gov
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 24 Nov 93 03:21:12 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: Time to get ticket
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Several comments in last few months about time it takes US FCC to issue
- amateur licenses. Several folks passed along their "results" calendars.
- They all left off the final relevant date.
-
- Me:
- Tested 30 Aug 93 (930830, 8/30/93, 30.8.93 -- whatever)
- License dated 5 Oct 93
- Received 7 Oct 93
-
- Here's the REAL kicker:
- First mailing list mail received 23 Nov 93
- Guaranteed to be from FCC file because of minor coded addition in address
- used on mailing label.
-
- It was from Amateur Electronic Supply, Milwaukee.
- Sharp marketing, AES!
-
- Paul Marsh N0ZAU (buried under junk mail) in Omaha
- pmarsh@metro.mccneb.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 10:17:04 MST
- From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!eff!news.kei.com!yeshua.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!destroyer!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!adec23!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: WARNING: Potential Satellite Anomaly Warning
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
-
- POTENTIAL SATELLITE ANOMALY WARNING
-
- ISSUED: 16:30 UT, 18 NOVEMBER
-
- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
-
- The following report is experimental. We would like to solicit
- comments on the usefulness of satellite anomaly warning reports
- (specifically warning of geosynchronous magnetopause crossings).
-
- ATTENTION:
-
- A sudden magnetic impulse of 16 nT marked the arrival of a disturbance
- at 12:11 UTC on 18 November. The field at geosynchronous altitudes was
- jolted by approximately 22 nT, afterwhich generally active geomagnetic
- conditions prevailed. However, magnetospheric ram pressure has increased
- over the last hour and is resulting in sufficient magnetospheric compression
- to produce magnetopause crossings by geosynchronous satellites. Both GOES-6
- and GOES-7 have penetrated the magnetopause and are still within the
- magnetosheath as of 16:30 UTC.
-
- Geosynchronous satellites may suffer additional magnetopause crossings
- over the next 12 hours.
-
-
- ** End of Warning **
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Nov 1993 09:35:57 -0600
- From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!emory!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!gatech!concert!corpgate!crchh327.bnr.ca!kharker@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: WEFAX and the KPC-3
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I am trying to decode some WEFAX transmissions on HF using my KPC-3
- TNC. I am currently on a DOS box, and I am using a program called AUTOFAX
- written specifically for the Kantronics line of TNCs. Basically, the KPC-3
- can be sent the command WEFAX, which will cause it to start decoding the
- audio it is receiving into black or white pixel values. AUTOFAX is written
- as a basic terminal program that can send the TNC the WEFAX command and jump
- into a graphics mode of displaying the pixels.
- Well, so far all I have been able to get is regular patterns of static.
- The radio I am using is my old reliable DX-440 (Sangean ATS-803A) shortwave
- receiver. The connection to the TNC is made using the same cable that I
- connect my borrowed Yaesu handheld to the TNC for VHF packet, and goes into
- the DX-440's headphone output jack.
- One of the problems with this setup may be the radio. The DX-440 has
- a one kHz tuning resolution. According to the KPC-3 manual, the way to
- tune in WEFAX transmissions is to tune 1.7 kHz below the listed frequency,
- and tune in on upper sideband. I can do the the upper sideband part, but
- the closest I come to the proper tuning for 8080 kHz (which means you would
- really want to tune 8078.3 kHz) is either 8078 kHz or 8079 kHz. It's also
- possible that none of the frequencies listed in the KPC-3 manual were
- broadcasting at the time I tried it (around 0400 UTC) or that my location
- in north central Texas is just bad for WEFAX. It's also possible that the
- DX-440 just can't cut it.
-
- So, I am asking for any critiques/comments on my setup - anything that
- might help. Something like perhaps a simple circuit to raise the input freq
- by 0.3 kHz? Or maybe someone could send me a WEFAX sked they know to be
- valid? Anything to help would be appreciated.
- --
- ======================================================================
- Kenneth E. Harker BNR "Any opinions expressed
- kharker@bnr.ca Richardson, Texas, USA are solely mine and do
- N1PVB (214) 684-5115 not represent BNR"
- ======================================================================
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 14:42:17 GMT
- From: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx10!lkollar@uunet.uu.net
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <1993Nov16.201718.1832@cbis.ece.drexel.edu>, <CGnHLz.Ioo@odin.corp.sgi.com>, <henrysCGq0vC.J60@netcom.com>.edu
- Subject : Re: CW abbreviations
-
-
- henrys@netcom.com (Henry B. Smith) writes:
-
- >Maybe we need a q signal for "Who was just sending CQ?" and "I hear
- >you guys signing, so who's left?".
-
- How about QCQ? Is it taken? I think "QRZ?" would fit this situation as
- well; I've heard it done once or twice.
-
- I've heard -- and used -- question marks to fill in missing characters in
- a call:
-
- W?7XYZ DE KC4WZK KC4WZK KN
-
- For the other situation, I try to listen & figure out which one just got
- a dinner call or whatever, and call the other one after the "dit dit."
- That works about half the time. I figure the rest of the time the person I
- tried to call also pulled the switch, spun the dial or whatever.
-
- For myself, I've learned to wait around a few seconds after finishing a QSO
- ever since I had someone jump in to tell me I was 30 over 9 in Columbia. :-)
-
-
- Wondering how one gets a new Q-signal approved, I am --
- --
- Larry Kollar, KC4WZK | I like CW, but that doesn't mean I think every ham
- lkollar@nyx.cs.du.edu | should have to learn it.
- "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog."
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 18:44:00 GMT
- From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!martha.utcc.utk.edu!utkvx.utk.edu!rwerner@decwrl.dec.com
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <CGp8ry.B9G@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>, <1993Nov19.142433.19962@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, <CGwLJ5.4K8@fc.hp.com>du
- Subject : Re: CW QSO's, New hams who need practice read this!!
-
- In article <CGwLJ5.4K8@fc.hp.com>, dave@fc.hp.com (Dave Hodge) writes...
- >Add me to the CW contact list. At the moment I'm limited to 10/15/20/40,
- >but I hope to add 80 soon. My comfort level is about 10 wpm, but slower
- >is fine, of course. All I ask in return is a QSL card if your contact
- >is a new state/mode or state/band for me.
- >
- >Send mail, and we can set up a schedule.
- >
- >--
- >
- >Dave Hodge KF0XD Hewlett Packard
- >dave@hpfcdjh.fc.hp.com User-Interface Hardware Lab
- >(303) 229-2141 (voice) Advanced Systems Division
- >(303) 229-4515 (FAX) Ft. Collins, CO
- Yep, add me also. My call KC4URW. Give me an idea of times and freq. I'm
- usually home after 6pm.
- Return mail to: RWERNER@UTKVX.UTK.EDU
- -.. . -.- -.-. ....- ..- .-. .-- ... -.-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 18:20:11 GMT
- From: netcomsv!netcom.com!btoback@decwrl.dec.com
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <CGvotM.8un@freenet.carleton.ca>, <arog.753969080@BIX.com>, <1993Nov23.113409.29442@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>
- Subject : Re: CONELRAD-what was it?
-
- In article <1993Nov23.113409.29442@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) writes:
- >
- >[CONELRAD] was a nice theory, but it didn't work in practice because ...
- >[Long, cogent explanation deleted]
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- >The new EBS system is different. It's primarily a defined network
- > [Long, cogent technical explanation and description of usage policy deleted]
-
- Alright, I give up.
-
- Is Gary Coffman (a) A huge computer data base with a natural language
- interface; (b) the pseudonym for a group of half a dozen experts in
- a dozen different disciplines; or (3) a dilettante in the Charles Darwin
- mold, only with even more interests and much better sources?
-
- The quality and quantity of his output would be incredible even if this
- were the only newsgroup he posts to. But there's at least one more that
- I know of, and maybe more as well.
-
- I sure hope somebody has backup tapes for this guy.
-
- -- Bruce Toback
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